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skylee -
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in this case does the word 那 in the beginning of the second phrase refer to the birthday party?
Basicly "On saturday we'll have birthday party preparation" ("Birthday party we saturday have a
preparation")? Could 那 be placed on somewhere else in the second sentence, or if it were
replaced with 生日晚会 could it then be placed for example in the end of the sentence?
Here, 那 is the short form of 那麽, which translates to "then".
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时间过得真快
This is propably a fixed phrase? What function 得 has in this sentence? Does it mean something
itself or is it used together with 过 to form some new meaning or change meaning of 过 some how?
No, it is not a fixed phrase. Take a look at this thread -> Grammar #3 的得地
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Sebasti -
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Here, 那 is the short form of 那麽, which translates to "then".
is that 那麽 same with 那末?
Could 再 be used in this case to indicate "then" aswell?
renzhe -
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I could as well say 开一个生日晚会 but in these cases the 一 can simply be dropped out?
Yes, the 一 was simply dropped.
那麽 = traditional form of 那么. Think of this "那" as "then", "if that's the case, then...".
It connects the previous sentence with the current one.
- We're having a party on Sunday
- Then we'll have to prepare on Saturday.
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Could 再 be used in this case to indicate "then" aswell?
No, because 再 is used when you perform one action immediately after another one. The "then" here
is not temporal (you can't prepare on Saturday AFTER you have the party on Sunday), it has the
meaning "well, then...", or "if that is so, then..."
And 得 is the particle that connects a verb with an adjective (V + 得 + Adj), where the
adjective describes the verb.
You should read the link skylee posted for more information.
Sebasti -
Thanks again guys for very helpful answers
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那麽 = traditional form of 那么.
how 那末 compares to above? My dictionary indicates 那末 also means "then"
Then yet again new questions:
1)
来不及吧，会迟到的"maybe there's not enough time. you will be late"
Does 吧 indicate "maybe" as well as many other things?
Why there is 的 in the end? It feels more like something that should have 吧 or 了to me. Can
someone explain?
2)
上课来得及 vs 九点上课
I've understood that time needs to be before the verb. However in first case the verb is before
time indication. Does 来得及 and 莱不及 grammaticaly differ from other time indications such
as date, time of clock?
renzhe -
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how 那末 compares to above? My dictionary indicates 那末 also means "then"
那末 is more spoken, and only has the meaning of "then". 那么 can also mean "that", for
example: "那么多!?", meaning "THAT much?!"
But don't take my word for it, I'm not 100% sure here.
来不及 and 来得及 are phrases using complements, so you should look into that in your
grammar book or search on here. It's a bit strange that a textbook would introduce these concepts,
translate them, and not explain the grammar behind them, to be honest. Another common example is
"听不懂", "I can't understand".
They mean "there's no time" and "there's still time". So they are not indications of time, they
don't tell you WHEN something happens, they describe the action. That's why they don't come at the
beginning.
吧 here is a question particle you use when you are unsure that something is a certain way and
are asking for a confirmation.
来得及吗? = Is there enough time? (you don't know, you're asking)
来得及吧? = There's enough time, right? (you suspect this is the case, but want confirmation)
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